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jocelynDAD
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Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2007 02:50 pm |
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Math and languages classes are tracked, that is - certain courses must be taken first before advancing.
Ergo: If the child has Spanish I and Algebra ! in Middle School, then upon entering high school then are eligible for Spanish 2 and Algebra 2 or Geometry (depending on that school's sequencing).
The Middle School classes and grades (to my knowledge & experience) is not displayed on the High school transcript - but the sequencing is a clear demonstration that the prior classes were successfully completed.
When D2 took French 5, it was clear to all adcoms that she had 5 years of French.
(Actually 7 years because our Middle school had French in the 6, 7 and 8th grades and that constituted French 1 to our High School.)
Likewise anyone taking the Calculus/Pre-Cal, Geometry and Algebra 2 sequence in our high school obviously took Algebra 1 in Middle School.
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CarolynLawrence
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Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2007 04:30 pm |
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Some high schools will list certain of the MS courses on the transcript. At others, they are not listed. As JD notes, colleges understand that a student taking Pre-Calculus in 10th or 11th grade had the leading courses in MS or the pre-requisite skills.
I do recommend that everyone ask for a copy of their child's transcript in junior year, along with the School Profile that will accompany the transcript when it is sent to colleges. It is a good idea to know what colleges will see on the transcript, and the information college admissions people will use to put your child in the context of his/her high school.
For example, I was surprised to see that my son's high school listed varsity football on his transcript --- wasn't expecting an EC like that to be on the transcript. And, I was pleasantly surprised to see how my kids test scores compared to the average of the school, and it is clear from the way the curriculum requirements were stated that my son has taken a very rigorous program, but I was not so happy with the way they described (or didn't describe) some other things in our school Profile that would help put his grades/achievements in proper perspective. However, at least now I have some specifics for my son to ask his GC and teachers to mention in their recommendations so that the "missing information" is still conveyed.
Finally, keep in mind that School Profiles do change, so if this is your second kid going through the process, don't rely on what the profile and/or transcript showed for your first kid. The profile for our school was changed this year, and is different then it was for my daughter.
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DesperateDad
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Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2007 04:46 pm |
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carolyn:
Our HS lists sports (and cheer and dance) on the transcript since they are taken in lieu of Physical Education which is a state graduation requirement.
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hummingbird
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Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2007 05:46 pm |
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Carolyn-- This is the first I've heard of a School Profile. What is it exactly? Do all schools submit them to colleges along with the transcript?
My kids' school is a 6-12 grade school. I wonder if the transcript includes the MS portion. Probably not. S started there in 9th grade, but D started in 6th (the same year).
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CarolynLawrence
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Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2007 06:39 pm |
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All schools should have a School Profile. It is a one or two page description of the high school and its programs that they send to colleges along with the student's transcript and the counselor recommendation. It usually includes information about required courses, the school student body, how many students go on to college and where, how many AP/honors courses. Some include other information about grading, class rank, etc. Colleges use the Profile to get a sense the applicant's achievements/curriculum within the local school context. When I work with students, I always ask to see the School Profile because it helps me (and admissions people) understand the courses the student has taken, the grades they've received, where they stand in their high school, etc.
Ask your child's guidance office for it. If they ask why, just say you are curious to see how your son will be viewed within the context of the school by colleges.
If your children's school is grade 6-12, they might indeed include MS courses on the transcript. I know that many 6-12 schools do. So, when you ask for the profile, also ask for a copy of the transcript.
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CalifCarolyn
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Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2007 06:59 pm |
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We had very similar questions regarding foreign language requirements with D1. She took Spanish I,II,II but they were taken in 8th, 9th, 10th grade. We had her counselor point this out on her transcript and since this HS is 7-12th it was easy to have all grades included on her transcript. With D2 she switched from Spanish (7th, 8th and 9th) to French (10th, 11th,12th) so she had 3 years in HS in 1 language.
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TooTiredMom
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Posted: Sun Apr 22nd, 2007 02:51 am |
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I am pretty sure S's high school transcript will include the foreign language and math classes taken in junior high. Our school district awards high school credit for those classes but the grades are not included in the overall GPA.
So if the Spanish 1 taken in eighth grade shows up on the transcript (without a grade- just shown as a P) will colleges view that as three years of the foreign language?
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Posted: Sun Apr 22nd, 2007 12:36 pm |
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mominva wrote: Usually, high school credit classes taken in middle school are listed on the high school transcript but are not included in the GPA.
Not in my school division. Even my son's high school credit way back in 6th grade (Latin 1) is affecting his high school GPA.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22nd, 2007 01:00 pm |
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| I believe that many colleges look at the level of the language, not the actual number of years on the transcript. My d's high school does not list her French I from 8th grade on her transcript, but her guidance counselors and all the schools we asked said that taking French III as a sophomore would satisfy the 3 years of language requirement. (Of course, we didn't ask all the time, since d also took French IV and is in honors French V now.)
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CarolynLawrence
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Posted: Sun Apr 22nd, 2007 05:14 pm |
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Deja wrote: mominva wrote: Usually, high school credit classes taken in middle school are listed on the high school transcript but are not included in the GPA.
Not in my school division. Even my son's high school credit way back in 6th grade (Latin 1) is affecting his high school GPA.
At one of the local 6-12 schools where I work, they also factor in the MS grades into the overall cummulative GPA. They do, however, also show a GPA for 9-12 and one just for the UC's (10/12, certain courses only) on the transcript. Their thinking is the colleges can decide which one to use.
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mathmom
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Posted: Tue Apr 24th, 2007 02:13 am |
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Our high school tanscripts includes the middle school courses, grades and Regent's scores for any high school level courses taken.
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