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Canadian
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Posted: Fri May 18th, 2007 07:30 am |
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| Hmmmmmmm.............interesting. Thanks.
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outwest
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Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 09:11 pm |
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I specifically looked for stoners when we went on our visit. The PNW is stereotypically FULL of them, but I didn't see any. I also didn't get the laid back vibe you both speak of, either. There seemed to be a lot of activity. Granted, we were there during our Spring break and so was everyone else who was touring. There were loads of visitors and groups so I wonder if that is why we didn't get that feeling.
I think Shennie would be an excellent person to ask, though. Her son is a Junior there. I am sure there are stoners there, but we just didn't notice! Growing up in the 60's and 70's in California I am well versed in that culture. LOL.
My Daughter had lunch with people active in the outdoor program because that is what she asked to find out about. She was very much impressed with their program and those three students looked pretty athletic to me (and not high  ).
Is there any other information on drug use at L and C as compared to other schools? I am sure it is around every school, but I would hate to spend a fortune to send my DD to a college where she was surrounded by pot heads.
I will say that the students at Whitman seemed decidedly more athletic, though. When we went to see the workout rooms and pool there were plenty of buff looking types sweating in there. Our tour guide was an ultra perky girl with muscles popping out all over. She was the kind with a swimmer's body with those neck and shoulder muscles, but just as cute as a button. My DD hikes and jogs, but doesn't use machines.
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Canadian
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Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 10:28 pm |
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I specifically looked for stoners when we went on our visit. The PNW is stereotypically FULL of them
This made me laugh! As opposed to, say, California?
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Canadian
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Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 10:31 pm |
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I I think Shennie would be an excellent person to ask, though. Her son is a Junior there.
Is there a way for us to ask Shennie to join the discussion?
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outwest
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Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 10:51 pm |
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Depends on where in California you are. 
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Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 11:16 pm |
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I specifically looked for stoners when we went on our visit....but I didn't see any. Maybe you weren't looking in the right place, because when my son did an overnight back in 2001, he managed to find them. From what I heard, his visit become much more enjoyable after that point.
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Posted: Sun May 20th, 2007 12:18 am |
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Posted: Mon May 21st, 2007 11:22 pm |
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Canadian - sorry to be joining the conversation a bit late. I don't check this board as much as I should..
Anyway, my #2 is indeed a junior at L & C. We live in Madison, WI, so understand that my impressions are based on things I have read and things my son has told me. When I read that L & C is a low energy place, I would have to say that my son is a low energy person! He doesn't work as hard as he should although I wouldn't really call him a slacker. He is majoring in biology with an eye on attending grad school although he may wait a couple of years.
He finds the classes at L & C challenging and interesting for the most part. He really likes his bio classes. There is probably just as much drinking and pot at L & C as there is at other schools. I know that son has indulged in both, but he also says that he has never been pressured and has friends who do neither and have no problems fitting in.
They have an excellent outdoor program and that is what initially attracted him to the school. I am disappointed to report that he has never taken advantage of it! Part of it is time and part is money. Oh well. He does really enjoy the fact that the campus is right next to a state park where he goes hiking fairly often.
He is staying out there this summer as he got a research internship at the college for which he is getting paid. He also is going to be doing a senior thesis so he should be in good shape researchwise for grad school.
Hope this answers some of your quesitons. I promise to check the board more frequently if you have others.
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Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2007 05:12 am |
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Thanks Shennie,
That was perfect.
I think the campus visit is vital.........and it is still a thin slice of life. I'm thinking now that I will let S do an "accepted students" visit at 2 schools if he has any question. That's assuming that he actually does his applications and gets accepted to 2 schools!
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Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2007 05:59 pm |
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Is there any other information on drug use at L and C as compared to other schools? I am sure it is around every school, but I would hate to spend a fortune to send my DD to a college where she was surrounded by pot heads.
This is purely ancedotal and I am sure that L & C doesn't necessarily have any more than any other expensive private school. On riding back to downtown on the L& C shuttle after a visit last spring, I was sitting in front of an L&C student chatting on her cell phone. ( it reminded me how kids in the back seat- forget the driver has ears) the topic of conversation, after how her parents housekeeper dented one of their cars & how much money her mother spent on a Prada raincoat she had sent, was complaining about how she had to wait until 4 am to smoke her pipe in the bathroom, since the other students were so greedy.
It wasn't pot she was smoking.
Not hash either.
Sometimes wealthy students aren't a good thing- if it means they have too much money to spend on substances.
However- we will be doing another visit- it is away from the Portland proper, but a shuttle to town runs frequently.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2007 06:35 pm |
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sigh.
I was hoping it wasn't so. Also, my D is far from rich. I don't believe that most of the kids there are rich. They have really good financial aid and that usually translates to a more rounded student body.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2007 06:44 pm |
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Oh I agree Outwest- but one thing I forgot to mention was that while L&C has had FAFSA only aid in the past, which enabled some friends to send their kids quite easily, this fall they will be using the PROFILE which the admissions counselor made a point of stressing & since our area has shot up every year in housing costs- that may mean that we would be expected to use equity for college
( although we already have refinanced & can't spend any more on mortgage payments)
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Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2007 08:30 pm |
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I live in Southern California. You know what that says about my equity. Never mind that we couldn't afford to take it out. We aren't counting on any need aid, but Lewis and Clark has some really great merit aid. My D liked this school quite a bit. At least, enough to keep it on her list of schools she is applying to. Every other PNW school we saw was dropped. She is applying to the UC's and some privates with the hope that some of the privates may come through with merit aid so she could actually go to one instead of a UC. I know it is more then possible as that is what happened to my #1 DD.
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Posted: Sun Dec 16th, 2007 06:30 am |
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My D was accepted EA to L and C this am. It is still on her list, but a few other schools have caught her eye now, too.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 05:44 pm |
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We (S and I) finished a PNW college tour in the past few weeks, too.
Back westward up the Columbia gorge to Portland, S and I went, to visit Lewis & Clark and Reed.
— Coming out of Walla Walla at the point of turning south into Oregon you are immediately and dramatically “swallowed” by the high bluffs of the Columbia River, which you then share for most of the way into Portland. The drive is both intensely scenic and safe. On a perfectly clear afternoon Mt. Hood loomed ahead in the west for almost two hours until it disappeared from sight as we crossed the Cascades once again. Of course it reappears in the east when you get to Portland.
— Portland is a busy urban area built on the banks of the Willamette River. The river thoroughly splits the city into two halves, flatter on the east side and hillier on the west. My impression was that there weren’t many bridges, making navigation interesting. (Lewis & Clark is on the west side of the river, Reed on the east.) The city’s hills, covered with pine trees, are verdant and appealing.
— We dropped in on Lewis & Clark College on a Sunday morning, an excellent time to have the campus to ourselves even if all the students are present (and they were). We did a self-walking tour for about 2 hours and the only students we saw were library employees. We left campus, visited Powell’s bookstore in downtown Portland, and came back to eat lunch in the cafeteria before we finally got to see the denizens of the college.
— The campus is stunning: seemingly carved out of the hilltop on which it rests and set into the surrounding forest of tall pines. The campus, a former estate, is centered on the former mansion and split into a classroom corridor and a dorm/grad school corridor. It was early spring in Portland, with daffodils, crocuses, and forsythia in bloom, but well short of the peak gardening season during which I can only imagine the place in full bloom.
— Admissions and college senior officers are situated in the mansion, which features large and well-appointed waiting room heavy on leather furniture and carved wood trim, probably the plushest I have seen thus far. A tiered set of lawns and formal gardens extend out the back of the mansion, the whole of which is set to frame Mt. Hood, about 60 miles distant. Mt. Hood from the Lewis & Clark Mansion You are greeted with this view through the french doors behind the receptionist as you walk into the mansion.
— Near the mansion is a circular chapel, nearly windowless save for high stained glass windows. It houses what seemed to me a large organ (although I am no judge). I found the chapel an interesting addition to a non-denominational college, but, devoid of any but very abstract iconography, its purpose appeared strictly ecumenical.
— Almost all the classroom buildings were open, too, and we walked through many of them. They flowed downhill and most seemed very modern, full of carpeted classrooms with whiteboards and integrated projectors. In fact they all seemed to have been built in the last decade or so and I didn’t see a “venerable” older one, although it is quite possible I might have missed some. The buildings are very well integrated with each other and their environment and provided a relaxed and entertaining stroll for us.
— Although we came back to eat lunch and walk through the student center, we were rushed and I really had only a little time to get a sense of the student body and so can make no trustworthy observations.
We had no info session, so I am left to published sources for academic and social information. However my S found the school compelling and he will probably investigate further. I can only guess that the unique campus grounds themselves are a primary factor in this interest.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 06:37 pm |
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Yah, that place is gorgeous, isn't it? My D is into pretty campuses and this one certainly fit te bill. We saw all the students when we went and there is quite a mix. If you are an outdoors person the place is terrific. Their outdoor program is very active. Both Whitman and L and C have the best programs my D saw.
Shennie has a son there who is graduating now.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24th, 2008 04:43 am |
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Random notes from our visit last year:
Another nice thing about L & C is that they have shuttle buses that run to several neighborhoods of Portland.
My S said the outdoor program was amazing (also Whitman's, and both better than UPS or Willamette). We have received regular emails about L & C's environmental programs and initiatives, which sound impressive.
On the dorm side of the campus there is a coffee house and also apparently another place for veggie/vegan snacks, though I didn't see it.
Kids were friendly. S talked to some rugby players who invited him to scrimmage with them. (Then again, rugby players are a minority group and are generally very friendly to any members of the tribe.) Unfortunately, he didn't have his cleats.
S visited as a junior. He was not allowed an overnight or interview. The school did arrange for him to attend a class.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24th, 2008 04:54 am |
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Another chime about how beautiful this campus is. We were graced with the full view of Mt. Hood from the rose gardens.........pretty hard to top. This school is unusual in that there are extensive formal gardens, I guess dating back to when this was an estate, and also the deep, woodsy feel described.
Students said they spent a lot of time hanging in the gardens on nice days. They also liked the way the wooded ravine separates the living area from the work area, liked the feeling of psychological separation from the classrooms, though it is probably a 10 minute walk.
I found most of the architecture pretty non-descript except for the admissions building and another old structure that was a barn or henhouse or something else odd. The dorm room we saw was very basic & crowded looking.
But the setting kinda makes you forget the buildings.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 12:03 am |
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We just got back from a PNW college tour for my junior S. Since these schools have already received extensive reviews I will try to be additive. First stop Lewis and Clark:
- Gorgeous campus more resembling a preserved estate (think Filoli, Hyde Park, Acadia) than most college campuses. Worth a look even if not interested in LC.
- In Portland, but not in Portland. Located is SW suburbs, need to take bus or shuttle into city. Services within walking distance sparse.
- Best presentation by admissions officer. Hit every question most students or parents would have before question period.
- Most geographically diverse student body. Has more "buzz" on East coast than other PNW schools.
- Quietest student union, where was everyone and school was in session. There seemed to be more prospies visiting school than actual students.
- Strongest international studies programs, might even say focus of LC.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 04:01 am |
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A few more things:
Seconding Safisher, one thing I found really strange was that there seemed to be so few kids around.........I spent the day walking around the campus and hanging out in the student centre, bookstore and café and not much was happening anywhere. The kids I did see all looked so much the same........sooooooo northwest..........that I had to chuckle.
L & C scheduled S into a freshman core class where he felt everyone seemed bored. His lunch host was a girl who had none of his interests. He met with some guys from the outdoor program and really liked it. The tour was good and so was the info session, which was small and personal.
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