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Canadian
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Posted: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 05:42 am |
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My son has it.
Accepted ED, now attendance is down and so are grades. I've told him that colleges can and do rescind acceptances. Am wondering....how bad does it really have to get for this to be a likely scenario?
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Northeastmom
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Posted: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 10:37 am |
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I don't know, but 2 years ago, a GC told parents of seniors that the year before 2 students needed to write letters to explain their grades and their grades reflected 2 Cs, with all the rest being Bs or better. I know one of the schools requesting this was an average state school. The GC told us that in prior years, colleges never asked for this. The acceptances were obviously not rescinded, but the students and their families were nervous about it.
Congrats, on your son's acceptance!
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CarolynLawrence
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 01:09 am |
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Colleges make it clear that ALL offers of admission are provisional based on the student maintaining equivalent grades to those the admissions decision was based on. Colleges are particularly wary of students admitted ED who then slack off grades-wise. I do know of students who have had colleges rescind offers of admission based on final grades, and at all sorts of colleges.
Keep in mind that many colleges run lengthy waitlists each year, so it is no skin off of their teeth to bump out a slacker in favor of someone who has demonstrated they really want to be at that college by keeping up their grades up until graduation.
The worst rescind horror story I've heard was last year when on the counselor list-serv I belong to, a school counselor was literally BEGGING for help finding a last minute spot for a student who had had her offer of admission to a very well-known college rescinded in early AUGUST. Her crime? She had been a "mostly A" student but ended up with "mostly B's" and two "C's" on her final transcript.
I tell my students (and my own kids): They admitted you believing you were a certain type of student -- now your part of the bargain is making sure you prove that they made the right choice.
(PS I also tell my students who were admitted ED that before they drop or change any courses on their schedule for the second half of the year, they must get approval from the college first. I do know of several instances when colleges were none too happy when students dropped out of say AP Calculus BC after being admitted ED, or dropped down to a non-AP course after the ED deposit went in. Most kids quickly change their minds when I ask for proof that they have called their college and said, "Gee, now that I'm in, I think I want to take an easier course this semester."  )
Last edited on Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 01:14 am by CarolynLawrence
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Canadian
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 05:25 am |
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Thanks, Carolyn.
I will pass on this exact info to my son. I've already told him that if his admission is rescinded he can look forward to working for a living for the next year, but I doubt he believed it could actually happen.
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Engineeringmama
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Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 11:31 am |
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Carolyn, my D just started her final semester. She wants to drop an art class, she wants a study hall and hears that this class has a lot of outside of class time that she really doesn't have time for.
Will it be a problem to drop an art class? Midterm grades have not gone out yet, is there a way for her GC to note that she dropped an elective or should she notify the schools herself?
Thanks
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hummingbird
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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 03:33 am |
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| Oops, I should have read this thread before I posted my thread about "changing senior schedule!"
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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 02:26 pm |
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| We have senioritis here, too. I say "we" because the high school routine is getting to me, too. Grades have been okay, except for a brief return to his old not-turning-in-homework routine. But I can tell he's really, really bored. He has an internship away from school twice a week this semester, so that might help. My concern is not that admissions will be rescinded, but that he'll get to college and not be primed to study because he's spent most of his senior year doing as little as possible. (He got his first "yes" way back in October.)
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Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 01:53 pm |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/03/AR2008020302355.html
A great article on senioritis by Jay Mathews.
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Canadian
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Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 06:18 pm |
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Thanks, ellenrch, I couldn't agree more. And I think it is absurd for colleges not to expect that kids will want to relax.
However, TWO letters from from my son's ED school saying "we expect your final grades to be as good as or better than" the grades he got in with have me nervous, as do stories I heard about schools who in fact did rescind acceptances. S knows the score, and the only thing to do is for ME to relax!
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 06:05 am |
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I do know two kids who had their admission recinded (one private school and one large public) and one who had to write a letter about a C. It really truly does happen! It was devastating to all of them. Don't let it happen.
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jocelynDAD
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 02:57 pm |
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D3 received her acceptance letter from Wooster yesterday. The following sentences are a direct quote.
"While you may have become familiar with this phrase in school, senioritis is not a medically recognized disease. Thus we must remind you that you need to complete your senior year just as successfully as you have begun it. Your acceptqnce is contingent on you continuing the same performance livel until graduation."
Juniata's acceptance letter includes this phrase:
"Our offer of admission is made with the assumption that you will successfully complete all coursework now in progress..."
Lake Forest's acceptance letter included the following:
"...it is important for you to maintain your work during the remainder of the academic year. Your final grades will be reviewed as a part of our normal admission procedure."
Lawrence's acceptance letter includes this phrase:
"Your offer of admission is contingent upon completion of your high school work at an acceptable level of performance..."
Senioritis is clearly a matter of some concern and although the language is obviously open to a broad interpretation, that interpretation can be made by the college/university in as arbitiary a manner as they choose. 
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Canadian
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 05:54 pm |
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"While you may have become familiar with this phrase in school, senioritis is not a medically recognized disease.
Nice that the school at least has a sense of humour!
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WestrnMom
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 10:02 pm |
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Two students from S's school ran into serious trouble with senioritis. One lost an acceptance to an elite college due to declining grades. The other went to the school of his choice, but flunked out because he never returned to his earlier work habits. It's my opinion that students who get senioritis aren't working for the rewards of learning and doing well, but to get into college. Once they get in, they lose the motivation to continue performing. Maybe those students are better off going to a less stressful college where grades and performance don't matter as much, until they can pull it back together again.
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