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hummingbird
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 Posted: Tue Mar 18th, 2008 02:04 am

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Thought I'd start a thread for those who have their acceptances in hand and have made a decision already. My son has decided to attend the University of Maryland. He has been admitted to their Journalism school and to the Honors Humanities program.

I'm looking forward to this thread filling up soon!

hummingbird's S: University of Maryland

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 Posted: Tue Mar 18th, 2008 02:21 am

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Well, first to be admitted, and first to narrow down his many excellent options. While UMD is a great school, I'm sort of wistful that he won't be headed to Madison, but he'll have a terrific experience at UMD! Congratulations to your son!

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 Posted: Tue Mar 18th, 2008 02:40 am

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My son has known for sometime. My dh works at JPL, which makes him a Caltech employee, so S goes tuition free. We have known for the past 14 years thay he would go to Caltech :) I am just relieved they agreed!

hummingbird's S: University of Maryland

LFM's S: California Instute of Technology

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 Posted: Tue Mar 18th, 2008 03:27 am

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Only one application, acceptance pretty much assured, but it was really nice to get that piece of paper confirming it:

hummingbird's S: University of Maryland

LFM's S: California Institute of Technology

Moominmama's D: Savannah College of Art & Design



 

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 Posted: Tue Mar 18th, 2008 10:54 pm

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Hijinksandsue's D Berklee College of Music

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 Posted: Wed Mar 19th, 2008 01:20 am

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Congrats to all these new college undergrads.  No more "high school student" in your vocabulary for your S's and D's.  If grad school is in your child's future, I can report that you will burst with pride as she/he successfully navigates that process by themselves.  If I ignore my misplaced worries, this was a relatively stress-free experience for me.  Spot on guidance and advice was provided by D's many mentors and connections at her LAC.  And the best part is that she's coming back to town (with her own place of course)!

Hijinksandsue's D Berklee College of Music

hummingbird's S: University of Maryland

LFM's S: California Institute of Technology

MaizeBlue's D:  University of Washington (doctorate in Atmospheric Science/Chemistry with full funding)

Moominmama's D: Savannah College of Art & Design

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 Posted: Sat Apr 5th, 2008 03:40 pm

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I have an idea -- Let's change this around to be an alphabetical list of schools, and who is attending each school. That might be more useful at the end of this process, to be able to easily see which schools our kids are attending, since we already have final decisions among choices in the "Acceptances" thread.

Insert your school into the alphabetical list, or add your name to a school already on the list:


Berklee College of Music: Hijinksandsue's D
California Institute of Technology: LFM's S
Savannah College of Art & Design: Moominmama's D
University of Maryland - College Park: Hummingbird's S
University of Washington: MaizeBlue's D (doctorate in Atmospheric Science/Chemistry with full funding)

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 Posted: Sat Apr 5th, 2008 04:10 pm

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Berklee College of Music: Hijinksandsue's D
California Institute of Technology: LFM's S
Savannah College of Art & Design: Moominmama's D
University of Maryland - College Park: Hummingbird's S
University of Missouri - School of Journalism: Ellenrch's S
University of Washington: MaizeBlue's D (doctorate in Atmospheric Science/Chemistry with full funding)

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 Posted: Sat Apr 5th, 2008 09:44 pm

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Berklee College of Music: Hijinksandsue's D
California Institute of Technology: LFM's

Reed College: Carolyn's son
Savannah College of Art & Design: Moominmama's D
University of Maryland - College Park: Hummingbird's S
University of Missouri - School of Journalism: Ellenrch's S
University of Washington: MaizeBlue's D (doctorate in Atmospheric Science/Chemistry with full funding)

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 Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 02:34 am

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Can I extend this idea of getting this thread to do more work?

If anyone is interested in sharing, I would like to know about how decisions were made in coming to a final selection.

Thanks in advance for any responses.
  • What kind of information did you seek that you did not already have before applying? How did you get that information? Is there information that you couldn't get that you wish you had?

  • How/why were some schools eliminated in favor of others? Did you end up in a "close call"? How was that decided?

  • Are you happy with the choices you have? Do you wish you would have done something earlier to alter your set of choices?

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 Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 03:55 am

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This information is probably of only peripheral interest to most members of this community, since it refers to my daughter's applications/admission to MBA programs. But here's a bit of information for those who might be curious.

She is planning to accept the offer from the University of Michigan school of business ("Ross").  She applied to five programs in all, leading to 1 rejection ("ding"), 1 acceptance, 1 waitlist, 1 withdrawal of application, and 1 application still pending.  Pretty much a "one of each" type of outcome.
  • What kind of information did you seek that you did not already have before applying? How did you get that information? Is there information that you couldn't get that you wish you had?  The entire process is different from undergrad applications and quite different as well from law school applications (with which I have some familiarity). Applications are done in "rounds," with most applicants being admitted to the more desirable programs in rounds 1 and 2, but some in round 3.  I don't think my daughter fully understood how important it was to apply in round 1 if possible, and that round 3 was far less optimal a time to apply.  (For one thing, she still has a round 3 application pending, while she has only another 2 weeks to make a final decision on her round 1 acceptance).  This information was available, however, as I discovered by spending some time on discussion boards, such as the one by Business Week; but my daughter hadn't sought it out before developing her strategy for studying for and taking the GMAT and preparing applications.

  • How/why were some schools eliminated in favor of others? Did you end up in a "close call"? How was that decided? As someone who is coming from a background with a BFA degree (industrial design) and an interest in not just product designs (as an industrial designer) but the product design process from the perspective of strategic decision-making by businesses concerning all aspects of a product cycle, she only sought to apply to programs that had a strong specialization in "sustainable enterprise" or a dual "green design" + MBA program.  The best of these programs, by reputation, are at UMich, Yale, Stanford, Duke, and Berkeley. (Cornell is also supposed to have a good dual program but it's not as highly ranked and it's too rural, from my daughter's perspective.) Those are the 5 she applied to, but these are differentially selective, and she also did not/was not ready to apply to all of them in Round 1 or even Round 2.  Because she got one very good acceptance, and it's in our home state (Michigan), she withdrew her application before a decision at Duke. If she had managed to make all applications in Round 1, the choice set might be different at this time, in particular she would likely have Duke to consider along with Michigan, and she might have Berkeley (application still under review--round 3!). She was waitlisted at Yale and dinged at Stanford. But she's quite happy with UMich and just did an accepted student weekend there, including finding an apartment.  Had she not been admitted to UMich, however, well she didn't have any true "safety" and would likely have continued working for another year and reapplied to one or more of these programs and added one or two of the more "socially conscious" business programs that might however have lacked a dual degree arrangement. (At UMich she will earn an MBA as well as an MS offered by the engineering school: http://www.erb.umich.edu/.)

  • Are you happy with the choices you have? Do you wish you would have done something earlier to alter your set of choices?  See above notes about strategy of application rounds and lack of true "safety."  Given that she has come from a BFA program in which she had taken no science or math courses, she could have been at a disadvantage in the application process.  But earning a high GMAT test score, including high verbal and math scores, probably allayed concerns along that line (but MBA application success also depends heavily on work experience and essays). She's currently taking a calculus course at NYU and has signed up for a statistics course as well, so she'll be ready for the quant aspect of the business program when it begins this fall. But had she taken those courses earlier (say last year) it might have improved her chances at Stanford and Yale, though both have very low admission rates so were going to be tough in any case. She's very happy with the outcome, however, and is really looking forward to beginning her program in the Fall.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 06:27 pm

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Applied to six; accepted at four: Missouri (Journalism, Honors), Ohio (Scripps), Syracuse (Newhouse), BU (College of Comm.).

What kind of information did you seek that you did not already have before applying? After zeroing in on Missouri (see below), we wanted more information about Honors College perks, frequency and type of honors courses offered, living-learning communities, the j-school's philosophy, and other ways to maximize the intellectual challenge and make a large university feel smaller.

How did you get that information? (1) Online, by digging deep into the university's website and finding information such as spring semester enrollment statistics (assured me that honors classes are in fact small and plentiful) and j-school curriculum (strong liberal arts base as well as hands-on). (2) Visiting for an admissions day, which was so much more useful as an admitted student because we could ask many focused questions. I really have to stress the value of online research. Everyone at a university will tell you that honors classes are "small" and have "experienced professors who don't usually teach intro level courses." But the key is finding data to support those statements. My S also talked to current students and to a couple of Mizzou grads who are working journalists. (Two students who dropped out of the j-school told him it was too intense and rigorous for them. In his mind, that's a plus!)

Is there information that you couldn't get that you wish you had? No, except perhaps a crystal ball that would tell us how it all turns out in four years!

How/why were some schools eliminated in favor of others? Cost/merit aid, strength in his areas of interest, overall strength of journalism program.

Did you end up in a "close call"? How was that decided? No close call. Of the schools he was admitted to, Syracuse was second; I have much respect for Newhouse and would highly recommend it to others.

Are you happy with the choices you have? Do you wish you would have done something earlier to alter your set of choices? Yes; no. My S may be unusual in that he's enthusiastically focused on his goal of being on the cutting edge of journalism and convinced that Mizzou is the place to be. Don't ask me where this came from, because I'm still not sure what I want to be when I grow up. If you had asked me six months ago whether this passion would last, I would have said "maybe not." Now I feel different. I honestly don't think he's likely to be in the 50% (75%?) of kids who think they know what they want and then change course. Tune in this time next year for an update!

Oh, and did I say that the Mizzou campus is amazing? :cool: Add to my "concerns": Will he spend way too much time on the climbing wall or in the "lazy river"?

To keep this thread on track (and it's a great idea!), I would be happy to answer questions about my S's process or our choices via PM.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 11:35 pm

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Okay, here goes: My son plans to major in journalism (perhaps double-major with political science). He applied to the University of Missouri, Ohio University, Indiana University, University of Wisconsin, and University of Maryland. Was accepted into the journalism school at all of them (except at Wisconsin where they don't declare a major until sophomore year). Accepted into honors at all of them (except he did not apply to Ohio's HTC). All have highly ranked journalism schools, and all were schools we felt we could afford.

What kind of information did you seek that you did not already have before applying? How did you get that information? Is there information that you couldn't get that you wish you had?

We sought out more details: what coursework was required at each school, information about the surrounding area, dorms, eating plans, etc. This information was mainly obtained by online research. We also bought the undergraduate catalogs for the final two choices. I wish we had had a chance to visit all of them again in person, but that wasn't feasible.

How/why were some schools eliminated in favor of others? Did you end up in a "close call"? How was that decided?

He dropped Ohio right away. Decided the town was too small and far away from "anything interesting." (He knew he would qualify for a scholarship equal to in-state tuition, plus half of the OOS surcharge, and that's pretty much the only reason he applied.) He dropped Indiana next for the same reason - location. Dropped Mizzou also for the same reason, although he LOVED their campus. Just today, in fact, he said he wished the campus had been located somewhere else. His final choices were between Wisconsin and Maryland. We visited Wisconsin only after he had been admitted, and he really liked it, and loved the city. He would have chosen it over Maryland if the COA had been about equal. Maryland's scholarship is what tipped it for him, plus its proximity to Washington DC.

Are you happy with the choices you have? Do you wish you would have done something earlier to alter your set of choices?

Yes and no. I do wish I could have convinced him to consider some smaller universities or LACs, if only to have some comparisons. He didn't want to consider any schools he hadn't heard of :P. He only wanted to look at school that had top-rated journalism programs, and you don't find that in LACs. Location was very important to him, so in retrospect, he probably shouldn't have bothered applying to the schools which didn't appeal to him geographically. Maybe he should have focused his search only in the DC and Boston areas :?. Perhaps should have applied to our in-state flagship as the financial safety, rather than Ohio U. We started the search a year ago in March... visited schools over Father's Day weekend last summer... and he applied to all of them by mid-September. Had all acceptances in hand before Christmas, except Maryland came out in February. Time-wise, that was great, because we weren't holding our breath waiting until April 1st for acceptances.

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My son plans to major in Physics (or maybe Chemistry). Applied to 10, accepted at 6: UCSD, UCLA, UCB, Haverford, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, 3 rejections, 1 waiting list. Going to Harvey Mudd.

What kind of information did you seek that you did not already have before applying? How did you get that information? Is there information that you couldn't get that you wish you had?

My son was already pretty knowledgeable about the different class offerings, had visited 5 out of the 6 that accepted him, went to local admitted students receptions and also to Admitted Students Days at Harvey Mudd and Pomona. After that, he said that he didn't need any additional information to make a final decision.

How/why were some schools eliminated in favor of others? Did you end up in a "close call"? How was that decided?

Since he was accepted to 3 Liberal Art Colleges (his clear preference), the UCs were dropped right away. Haverford was dropped after going to an admitted student reception: the kids seemed "too white". Agonized between Pomona and Harvey Mudd. At the end, took our advice into account and chose Harvey Mudd.


Are you happy with the choices you have? Do you wish you would have done something earlier to alter your set of choices?

Yes; no. I think he had a pretty good list of colleges: 1 safety, 4 matches, 2 reaches, 3 super reaches. He would have been fine going to any of them. He could have applied to UC Davis that would have admitted him automatically and therefore, have an acceptance early in the process but he didn't want to go there. I don't think his acceptance/rejection results were very surprising and I believe that his final choice is a great fit for him.


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